Legislature(2017 - 2018)SENATE FINANCE 532

01/30/2018 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:03:04 AM Start
09:04:16 AM Presentation Department of Health and Social Services Fy 19 Operating Budget
11:03:26 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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+= SB 144 APPROP: OPERATING BUDGET/LOANS/FUNDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Presentation: Department of Health and Social TELECONFERENCED
Services FY19 Operating Budget
Valerie Nuur'araaluk Davidson, Commissioner
Shawnda O'Brien, Assistant Commissioner
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SENATE BILL NO. 144                                                                                                           
"An  Act making  appropriations for  the operating  and loan                                                                    
program  expenses  of  state   government  and  for  certain                                                                    
programs;   capitalizing  funds;   amending  appropriations;                                                                    
making  supplemental  appropriations; making  appropriations                                                                    
under  art. IX,  sec. 17(c),  Constitution of  the State  of                                                                    
Alaska,  from the  constitutional budget  reserve fund;  and                                                                    
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
^PRESENTATION DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH  AND SOCIAL  SERVICES FY                                                                  
19 OPERATING BUDGET                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:04:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VALERIE  DAVIDSON, COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH  AND                                                                    
SOCIAL SERVICES, introduced her staff.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner    Davidson    discussed    the    presentation                                                                    
"Department of  Health and Social Services  - Senate Finance                                                                    
- FY2019  Department Overview" (copy on  file). She informed                                                                    
that   the   department   would  be   providing   additional                                                                    
information  in  the  upcoming days,  as  requested  by  the                                                                    
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson  looked at  slide 2, "Health  & Social                                                                    
Services":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     The  Department of  Health and  Social Services  (DHSS)                                                                    
     was  originally  established  in  1919  as  the  Alaska                                                                    
     Territorial   Health   Department.  With   the   formal                                                                    
     proclamation  of  statehood  on January  3,  1959,  the                                                                    
     department's responsibilities were  expanded to include                                                                    
     the  protection  and  promotion of  public  health  and                                                                    
     welfare.  These  core  duties   are  reflected  in  the                                                                    
     mission of  the department  to promote  and protect the                                                                    
     health and well-being of Alaskans   and are outlined in                                                                    
     Article 7, Sections 4 and  5 of the Constitution of the                                                                    
     State of Alaska.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Department Home and Resource Links                                                                                         
     http://dhss.alaska.gov                                                                                                     
     Constitutional Authority Article 7, Sections 4 and 5:                                                                      
     http://ltgov.alaska.gov/services/alaskas-constitution/                                                                     
     Duties of the Department                                                                                                   
     http://www.legis.state.ak.us/basis/statutes.asp#47.05                                                                      
     FY19 Proposed Department Budget                                                                                            
     https://www.omb.alaska.gov/html/budget-report/fy2019-                                                                      
     budget/proposed.html                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:07:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson shared that  the next four slides were                                                                    
prepared by the Legislative Finance Division (LFD).                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SHAWNDA   O'BRIEN,  ASSISTANT   COMMISSIONER,  FINANCE   AND                                                                    
MANAGEMENT  SERVICES,   DEPARTMENT  OF  HEALTH   AND  SOCIAL                                                                    
SERVICES,  reviewed  slide  3,  "Department  of  Health  and                                                                    
Social  Services Share  of Total  Agency Operations,"  which                                                                    
showed  a bar  graph.  She detailed  that  the graph  showed                                                                    
General  Funds (GF)  only  and  included Designated  General                                                                    
Funds  (DGF) as  well as  Undesignated General  Funds (UGF).                                                                    
The  graphed compared  figures  from  FY 19  to  FY 09.  The                                                                    
figures depicted  management plan scenarios, but  there were                                                                    
slight  differences with  the governor's  budget adjustment.                                                                    
The FY 18  management plan numbers did not  represent any of                                                                    
the supplemental  requests that had been  submitted in 2018;                                                                    
and  the GF  balances  were lower  than  the current  budget                                                                    
request.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  asked about  the supplemental  request for                                                                    
the department.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien  specified  that  the  department  had  made  a                                                                    
request for  $100 million  GF for Medicaid,  as well  as $18                                                                    
million in GF for substance abuse disorder treatment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche asked  if the  FY 19  budget included  the                                                                    
$118 million supplemental request.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien answered in the affirmative.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien spoke  to slide  4, "Department  of Health  and                                                                    
Social  Services  Line  Items,"  which showed  a  bar  graph                                                                    
depicting the  department's budget broken down  by line-item                                                                    
authority. The  department was largely funded  in the grants                                                                    
and benefits line; remaining line  items had been consistent                                                                    
over the  previous years.  She noted  that the  detail below                                                                    
the  graph  showed  reduction in  costs  the  previous  four                                                                    
years,  after  which there  was  growth  in the  grants  and                                                                    
benefits line.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien  reviewed  slide 5,  "Appropriations  with  the                                                                    
Department of  Health and Social  Services," which  showed a                                                                    
line graph  depicting a breakout of  the department's budget                                                                    
by  division.  She  clarified  that   the  slide  showed  GF                                                                    
spending only, including DGF. There  was a large increase in                                                                    
the GF  request between FY  18 and FY 19,  representative of                                                                    
$127 million over  the FY 18 governor's  budget. The numbers                                                                    
did not include the supplemental request.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:10:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien discussed  slide  6,  "Appropriations with  the                                                                    
Department of  Health and Social  Services," which  showed a                                                                    
line graph with  the budget broken out by  all fund sources.                                                                    
It was the  last slide in the presentation  prepared by LFD.                                                                    
She pointed  out a large  increase in the  Medicaid Services                                                                    
component  between  FY  18  and FY  19,  not  including  the                                                                    
Revised Program  Legislative Notice  (RPL) for  $525 million                                                                    
that  had been  received in  federal authority  for Medicaid                                                                    
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman remarked  on the  substantial increase  in                                                                    
Medicaid services between  FY 18 and FY 19. He  asked if the                                                                    
increase had been anticipated.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien answered  in the  affirmative.  She stated  the                                                                    
department  had  anticipated  some  growth as  a  result  of                                                                    
enrollments.  As the  department developed  and refined  its                                                                    
projection tools, it had identified  some rending items that                                                                    
would help  support better projections  for Medicaid  in the                                                                    
future.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  asked what the department  anticipated for                                                                    
trend lines  in FY 20 and  the following years for  the same                                                                    
line item.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   O'Brien  shared   that   the  department   anticipated                                                                    
enrollment growth  for Medicaid  services to level  out. The                                                                    
department  was  projecting  enrollment growth  to  decrease                                                                    
from 12 percent to 4 percent.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  referenced  slide  5,  which  showed  the                                                                    
Medicaid  program  in a  steady  decline.  He asked  if  the                                                                    
department found the new upward  trend alarming and wondered                                                                    
if   the   legislature   should   anticipate   any   related                                                                    
legislation. He  wondered if  Alaska was  providing services                                                                    
above and beyond the norm in the Lower 48.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien stated  that  the  department reviewed  current                                                                    
national legislation  and overall  spending in GF  and total                                                                    
spending in  Medicaid. There were ongoing  efforts to review                                                                    
claims detail  to ensure that  the state was  maximizing its                                                                    
federal  claiming  potential.  There were  specific  efforts                                                                    
from  Medicaid  expansion  legislation that  the  department                                                                    
incorporated into its ongoing work.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:14:11 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  asked if the legislature  could anticipate                                                                    
anything from the administration regarding legislation.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson stated  that the  department was  not                                                                    
proposing  any  legislative   changes.  The  department  was                                                                    
concerned   about  the   significant   growth  in   Medicaid                                                                    
expansion. In  FY 15, Medicaid covered  160,388 Alaskans. In                                                                    
2019, she  expected more than 225,000  unduplicated Alaskans                                                                    
to be  enrolled in the  program. She thought the  growth was                                                                    
attributable  to the  downturn in  the economy.  She pointed                                                                    
out that the  department's GF spending was lower  in FY 19's                                                                    
proposed budget  than it  was in FY  15. She  referenced the                                                                    
work  the committee  had  done via  SB  74 [Medicaid  reform                                                                    
legislation that  passed in 2016], which  would be discussed                                                                    
in a presentation to the committee the following day.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson continued  her remarks.  She informed                                                                    
that  the  department  had  been   very  aggressive  in  its                                                                    
refinancing efforts through the  tribal claiming policy. The                                                                    
efforts had allowed DHSS to  refinance how the services were                                                                    
provided to  Indian Health  Service (IHS)  beneficiaries who                                                                    
received  care  through  an  IHS  facility  as  required  by                                                                    
national  tribal  claiming  policy.   She  shared  that  the                                                                    
governor had  been able to  renegotiate the  tribal claiming                                                                    
policy. Previously  in order  for the  state to  receive 100                                                                    
percent  federal   match,  services  were  required   to  be                                                                    
physically  within the  four walls  of  the facility,  which                                                                    
created  a  transportation  challenge.  The  department  had                                                                    
requested a revision  of the policy, after  which travel for                                                                    
IHS beneficiaries  was viewed  as part  of the  service. The                                                                    
department also  requested that services  began in  a tribal                                                                    
facility   and  referred   to  a   non-tribal  facility   be                                                                    
considered  a  continuation  of   service  and  100  percent                                                                    
federal reimbursable.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Davidson  continued   that  in   FY  17   the                                                                    
department had targeted  $32 million in GF  savings, and had                                                                    
been able  to save  $35 million.  In the  FY 18  budget, the                                                                    
department had  targeted $42 million  in savings and  was on                                                                    
track to achieve the savings.  There were more than 700 care                                                                    
coordination  agreements   between  tribal   and  non-tribal                                                                    
providers. One  of the  benefits of  the revised  policy was                                                                    
less   duplication  of   service,  and   better  health-care                                                                    
planning when  services were provided in  the beneficiaries'                                                                    
home community.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:17:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator   von  Imhof   referenced  Commissioner   Davidson's                                                                    
mention of  increased Medicaid enrollment due  to a downturn                                                                    
in the  economy. She  wondered if  the uptick  in enrollment                                                                    
could  be due  to aggressive  enrollment efforts.  She asked                                                                    
how  many  Medicaid  recipients were  also  covered  by  IHS                                                                    
insurance. She  asked why the  department was  not utilizing                                                                    
outside data  analysis firms  that specialized  in statewide                                                                    
public healthcare and reporting.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Davidson  spoke   to   the   number  of   IHS                                                                    
beneficiaries that  were also using Medicaid.  She clarified                                                                    
that  the coverage  offered  by IHSS  was  not an  insurance                                                                    
plan.   She  detailed   that  about   40   percent  of   the                                                                    
beneficiaries  of Medicaid  were  also  eligible to  receive                                                                    
services  in  an  IHS facility.  Federal  law  required  IHS                                                                    
facilities  (including   tribally  operated   facilities  in                                                                    
Alaska)   to   seek  third-party   reimbursement   including                                                                    
Medicaid because of  the fact the facilities  were funded at                                                                    
about 50 percent  of the level of funding  needed to provide                                                                    
basic healthcare for Alaska Natives.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked how many people  qualified for IHS                                                                    
benefits.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson stated  that Alaska  Natives made  up                                                                    
about 20  percent of the  Alaska population, and  40 percent                                                                    
of the Medicaid beneficiaries were Alaska Native.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson  stated that  of the  225,000 Alaskans                                                                    
that were  covered by  Medicaid in  2019, 40  percent (about                                                                    
90,000) were  Alaska Native. There were  many Alaska Natives                                                                    
that were not  eligible for Medicaid due to  not meeting the                                                                    
income requirements.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon clarified that she  was trying to get the                                                                    
total population for IHS recipients in Alaska.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:23:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator   von  Imhof   appreciated   the  explanation.   She                                                                    
referenced her earlier question regarding data analysis.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson relayed  that  upcoming slides  would                                                                    
address  the  method  by which  the  department  arrived  at                                                                    
Medicaid  projections. She  thought the  FY 18  supplemental                                                                    
and  increase  in  FY  19   was  due  to  more  finely-honed                                                                    
projections.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon thanked  Commissioner  Davidson and  the                                                                    
DHSS  team for  work done  on behalf  of the  people of  the                                                                    
state.  She  discussed   assessing  costs  during  difficult                                                                    
financial  circumstances. She  discussed the  growth in  the                                                                    
health industry,  and high unemployment rates  in the state.                                                                    
She wondered  who was propping  up the growth in  the health                                                                    
service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson agreed  that the  cost of  healthcare                                                                    
had grown throughout the country.  She thought that everyone                                                                    
played a  part in  the cost. She  informed that  the largest                                                                    
payer   of  healthcare   services  was   private  insurance;                                                                    
including  state-covered  retirees   and  active  employees,                                                                    
Medicaid, and  private insurance.  The department  had heard                                                                    
from the  committee and  the public  that there  was concern                                                                    
about  rising  medical  costs throughout  the  state,  which                                                                    
mirrored  what happened  in  the rest  of  the country.  The                                                                    
administration  had convened  a group  (including membership                                                                    
from  the  Office  of  Management   and  Budget  (OMB),  the                                                                    
administration,  the Department  of Commerce,  Community and                                                                    
Economic Development,  and DHSS)  to look at  potential cost                                                                    
containment. She  recognized that  with the state  being the                                                                    
largest purchaser  of healthcare services, it  was important                                                                    
to ensure  that state  savings on  healthcare costs  did not                                                                    
unintentionally  shift the  costs to  those with  healthcare                                                                    
not paid by the state.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:27:53 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon understood  that government entities were                                                                    
paying  more  than  50  percent  of  overall  premiums  that                                                                    
provided insurance.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson   believed  Co-Chair   MacKinnon  was                                                                    
correct and noted  that the Division of  Insurance was under                                                                    
the  purview of  the Department  of Commerce,  Community and                                                                    
Economic  Development.   She  mentioned  the  work   of  the                                                                    
department   on   stabilizing   the  marketplace   for   the                                                                    
individualized  marketplace plans.  She continued  that DHSS                                                                    
anticipated one  problem with increased  Medicaid enrollment                                                                    
to be the requirement for  the individual mandate. Since the                                                                    
individual mandate  was removed, the department  expected to                                                                    
see  some   individuals  not  wish  to   continue  insurance                                                                    
coverage.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon thought  growth was  still projected  in                                                                    
Medicaid  numbers,  and referenced  Commissioner  Davidson's                                                                    
statement  that the  rising costs  in Alaska  were mirroring                                                                    
those  in  the  rest  of the  country.  She  thought  Alaska                                                                    
received  30 percent  higher  reimbursement  than any  other                                                                    
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson conveyed  that Alaska was experiencing                                                                    
growth in the cost in  healthcare just as other states were.                                                                    
The charges  in Alaska were  generally higher than  in other                                                                    
states.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:30:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  had heard  conversations at  the capitol                                                                    
that   indicated  the   administration   was  ignoring   the                                                                    
legislature's intent  to try and control  costs. She thought                                                                    
there  was  great   consternation  around  the  supplemental                                                                    
budgets  being  presented  to  the  legislature  during  the                                                                    
current  budget  cycle.   She  thought  supplemental  budget                                                                    
requests were being  used as a way to  force the legislature                                                                    
to pay for things that may  have been cut from past budgets.                                                                    
She asked how the department  would deal with a supplemental                                                                    
budget request that was not funded.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  emphasized  that she  had  not  been                                                                    
provided with a directive or  suggestion that it was okay to                                                                    
not  control costs.  She shared  that  efficiencies were  an                                                                    
agenda  item for  every cabinet  meeting with  the governor.                                                                    
She  highlighted that  the  department  had previously  been                                                                    
clear with  the legislature about anticipating  the need for                                                                    
a supplemental  the previous year  while knowing  the budget                                                                    
would not  be sufficient to fund  the department's federally                                                                    
mandated  requirements. The  department had  not anticipated                                                                    
the size of the FY  18 supplemental. The department believed                                                                    
that the budget request for  FY 19 was a true representation                                                                    
of the FY 19 need  for Medicaid. She acknowledged that there                                                                    
had been  "sticker shock"  that reverberated  throughout the                                                                    
department, legislature,  and administration. She  wanted to                                                                    
provide a  clear picture  of what the  FY 19  budget request                                                                    
should be to meet the anticipated need.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:33:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon   reiterated  her  question   about  the                                                                    
department's course  of action  if the supplemental  was not                                                                    
funded.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson  informed that the FY  18 supplemental                                                                    
request of $100 million could  be reduced by $7 million that                                                                    
had  been  included  for  the  Children's  Health  Insurance                                                                    
Program  (CHIP). At  the time  of the  budget proposal,  the                                                                    
federal program  had not yet been  reauthorized. The program                                                                    
had since  been reauthorized. She reminded  that federal and                                                                    
state  statute  required  the  department  to  pay  Medicaid                                                                    
claims. She  stated that if  the department did  not receive                                                                    
the supplemental  to pay for  FY 18 expenses, it  would have                                                                    
to suspend  Medicaid claims toward  the end of the  year and                                                                    
begin to pay the claims with funds from the FY 19 budget.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  requested a  written update  of Medicaid                                                                    
claims and enrollment numbers. She  estimated that in Alaska                                                                    
there  were  approximately  112,000 individuals  that  could                                                                    
qualify for  IHS. She  thought it  was interesting  to point                                                                    
out that  IHS was a fixed  pot of money provided  to Alaska,                                                                    
while Medicaid was  an unlimited amount of  funding. She was                                                                    
concerned  about  the  state's  heavy  reliance  on  federal                                                                    
funding and spoke to the national deficit.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:37:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche considered  the  proposed budget  increase                                                                    
and  the   department's  supplemental  budget   request.  He                                                                    
thought  it was  necessary to  discuss Medicaid  eligibility                                                                    
and   what   was   covered.  He   believed   in   healthcare                                                                    
accessibility for  all Alaskans. He thought  the state could                                                                    
not manage the recent growth in Medicaid.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:40:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Davidson   appreciated   Senator   Micciche's                                                                    
remarks. She  thought the downturn  in the  economy resulted                                                                    
in more  people enrolling in Medicaid  than anticipated. She                                                                    
reiterated  that   in  the  FY   19  proposed   budget,  the                                                                    
department's UGF  spending for  Medicaid was less  than that                                                                    
in FY  15. She  was happy  to work  with the  legislature to                                                                    
contain the costs of Medicaid.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche  thought  Alaska always  had  the  highest                                                                    
unemployment rate  in the nation, partially  due to seasonal                                                                    
employment.  He thought  it was  important  to consider  the                                                                    
reasons  individuals  enrolled  in  Medicaid.  He  mentioned                                                                    
aggressive  enrollment.  He  did  not think  the  change  in                                                                    
spending was reflective of the increase in unemployment.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman thought  the  problem in  FY  15 was  that                                                                    
there  was a  $4  billion deficit.  He  thought the  current                                                                    
budget was not  sustainable and did not agree  with using FY                                                                    
15 spending  levels for comparison.  He emphasized  the need                                                                    
for budget cuts. The committee  had considered reductions in                                                                    
many   different  programs,   including  those   statutorily                                                                    
required.  He  was  concerned about  hard-fought  reductions                                                                    
being eroded by expanding budgets.  He emphasized that FY 15                                                                    
spending levels were not acceptable.  He thought that if the                                                                    
budget  was  sustainable  the  previous  year,  having  $100                                                                    
million in  growth caused consternation.  He asked  if there                                                                    
was discussion  by the administration  to look at  the level                                                                    
of services and eligibility and  compare it to that of other                                                                    
states.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman  continued  his remarks.  He  discussed  a                                                                    
proposed  structured draw  on the  Permanent  Fund, and  the                                                                    
deficit.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:46:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bishop commented  that it  was known  that there                                                                    
was  not  a  $100 million  supplemental  since  Commissioner                                                                    
Davidson  had shown  a $7  million cut.  He assumed  the $93                                                                    
million  amount   was  anticipated  to  be   needed  by  the                                                                    
department moving  forward. He  wanted the committee  to see                                                                    
where the anticipated $93 million was going to be expended.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Hoffman   thought  that  the  question   would  be                                                                    
addressed in committee in the subsequent two days.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson  offered to provide  Vice-Chair Bishop                                                                    
with  a  spending  breakdown.  She  informed  that  upcoming                                                                    
slides  would provide  information  about  the data  sources                                                                    
used  to calculate  Medicaid  spending.  The department  had                                                                    
shared  the information  with LFD,  and LFD  had recommended                                                                    
offering a training on the subject.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson emphasized  that the department shared                                                                    
the concern  about the growth in  expenditures. She affirmed                                                                    
that  the   department  was   trying  to   project  expenses                                                                    
thoroughly and accurately.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:50:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  clarified that  she wanted an  update on                                                                    
Medicaid  claims  and  enrollment.  She  asked  if  Medicaid                                                                    
eligibility was  set at 150  percent of the  federal poverty                                                                    
level.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  informed that  Medicaid  eligibility                                                                    
depended   upon  the   population   and   the  category   of                                                                    
individuals served. She  shared that Denali Kid  Care had an                                                                    
effective  federal poverty  level  of 208  percent, and  the                                                                    
program's  federal matching  funds  were at  88 percent.  As                                                                    
part of  the Affordable Care  Act (ACA), there was  a change                                                                    
to how  Medicaid eligibility was  determined across  all the                                                                    
eligibility categories. Eligibility  was based upon modified                                                                    
adjusted  gross  income, with  a  couple  of exceptions.  To                                                                    
qualify for CHIP  or Denali Kid Care,  eligibility was based                                                                    
on 208  percent of the  federal poverty level.  For pregnant                                                                    
women  the  eligibility  was  205  percent  of  the  federal                                                                    
poverty level,  and the  federal match  was 50  percent. For                                                                    
elders  and individuals  with disabilities,  eligibility was                                                                    
based  upon  Supplemental  Security Income  (SSI),  and  the                                                                    
federal  match  was  50  percent.  She  clarified  that  the                                                                    
categories were defined at a federal level.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon   asked  about  the  poverty   rate  and                                                                    
eligibility for persons with disabilities.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Davidson   stated   that   individuals   with                                                                    
disabilities were qualified  through a medical determination                                                                    
rather than income level.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:53:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Micciche   asked   if   there   was   any   income                                                                    
consideration  for individuals  with  disabilities and  used                                                                    
the example of a person with  a disability that had a steady                                                                    
income.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  stated  that under  federal  law,  a                                                                    
person that  meets the  disability requirement  will qualify                                                                    
for Medicaid.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  asked if the disability  determination was                                                                    
a national standard.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson answered in the affirmative.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator von Imhof wondered if  the state had adjusted any of                                                                    
the guidelines for eligibility determination.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson stated that  the only eligibility that                                                                    
had changed  was for  Denali Kid  Care. The  federal poverty                                                                    
level standard  in Alaska was  200 percent, then  dropped to                                                                    
175  percent  at  the  direction  of  the  legislature.  The                                                                    
legislature   subsequently  increased   the  level   to  200                                                                    
percent.  Because  of  the way  the  modified  gross  income                                                                    
calculation functioned, the effective rate was 208 percent.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman reminded the  committee that two additional                                                                    
days were  dedicated to the  consideration of  Medicaid cost                                                                    
drivers  and  reform  updates.  He  asked  members  to  hold                                                                    
questions for a later time.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon wanted the  department to disclose if the                                                                    
state was allowed to quantify  the benefits that individuals                                                                    
were receiving.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  stated  that there  were  additional                                                                    
ways  to  qualify for  Medicaid  that  would be  covered  in                                                                    
subsequent slides.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:57:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien spoke  to slide  7, "Department  of Health  and                                                                    
Social Services  All Funding Sources," which  depicted a bar                                                                    
graph comparing  the governor's budget scenarios  from FY 15                                                                    
to FY  19, broken  out by  fund source.  She noted  that the                                                                    
largest area  of growth  in the  department's budget  was in                                                                    
the federal funds the state received.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien  referenced slide 8, "Medicaid  Budget FY2015 to                                                                    
FY 2019," which showed a bar  graph. She drew attention to a                                                                    
black line on  the top of each bar that  represented DGF and                                                                    
other state  funding in the  Medicaid program.  The majority                                                                    
of the  funding was  federal funds, shown  in grey;  and the                                                                    
remaining GF funds were shown in blue.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien  moved to  slide  9,  "Medicaid Enrollment  and                                                                    
Population Data," which showed  a bar graph using population                                                                    
data  from Department  of Labor  and Workforce  Development.                                                                    
The slide  showed enrollment  data going  back to  2000. She                                                                    
drew  attention  to the  green  portion  of the  bar,  which                                                                    
represented regular Medicaid  enrollment. The yellow portion                                                                    
of the bars showed Medicaid expansion enrollment.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:59:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Davidson  looked   at  slide   10,  "Medicaid                                                                    
Projections":                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     The DHSS projection tool relies on multiple resources                                                                      
       Agency model is based on actuals as reported in IRIS                                                                     
     or projected for the current year then adjusted for:                                                                       
     ?monthly enrollment trends as reported to the Centers                                                                      
     for Medicare and Medicaid Services;                                                                                        
     ?FMAP blends and participation; and                                                                                        
     ?Federal and/or State Initiatives                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien stated that slide 10  and 11 would cover how the                                                                    
department  was doing  Medicaid  projections.  Prior to  the                                                                    
previous   year,   the   department   had   used   different                                                                    
methodologies with which she was  not familiar. She informed                                                                    
that the  department used a  contractor for  trend analysis.                                                                    
Th  contractor utilized  data from  the department's  system                                                                    
and   offered   a   long-term   and   short-term   forecast.                                                                    
Considerations  included spending  and spending  adjustments                                                                    
from refinancing  efforts. The short-term analysis  was used                                                                    
in comparison with an analysis completed by the department.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   O'Brien   continued,   noting  that   the   department                                                                    
considered   more  finite   details   within  its   in-house                                                                    
analysis, such  as payments,  and FMAP  categories. Multiple                                                                    
Medicaid  process factors  were  considered in  projections.                                                                    
She used the  growth of assisted living homes  as an example                                                                    
of  a category  to  consider for  projections. Cost  drivers                                                                    
were considered  and researched to provide  more information                                                                    
to include in analysis.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien discussed slide 11, "Medicaid Projections":                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Development of the agency model relies on the STAMP                                                                        
     and the AUTH reports for reasonability:                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ? Short Term Alaska Medicaid Projection Report (STAMP)                                                                     
     by Evergreen Economics, Dr. Ted Helvoigt, Ph.D.                                                                            
     Forecast uses a Top-Down Modeling Approach and                                                                             
     incorporates                                                                                                               
           IRIS Actual Monthly Expenditures                                                                                     
           MMIS Monthly Enrollment Data                                                                                         
           Alaska Dept. of Labor Population data                                                                                
           Information on pending agency initiatives or                                                                         
          program changes that affect spending                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ? DHSS AUTH report       straight line averaging of                                                                        
     current year direct service expenditures                                                                                   
           MMIS weekly check runs                                                                                               
           Reconciled to IRIS                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Projection models  are then updated to  reflect federal                                                                    
     and/or state  Medicaid Initiatives or  program changes.                                                                    
     Multiple  scenarios  are   created  and  evaluated  for                                                                    
     reasonability testing.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien  reiterated  that the  department  was  in  the                                                                    
process  of  setting up  an  open  discussion, during  which                                                                    
interested participants could meet  with department staff to                                                                    
learn details about the projection process.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:03:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon  referenced  slide 11  and  wondered  if                                                                    
Evergreen  Economics  was  the  entity  that  presented  the                                                                    
original  analysis  on   Medicaid  expansion.  She  recalled                                                                    
estimates  of  enrollees  and   wondered  how  accurate  the                                                                    
company had been in its predictions.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien offered  to look at the report  and consider the                                                                    
accuracy. She qualified that  the information the department                                                                    
provided the consultant had  heavily influenced the accuracy                                                                    
of the  reporting. She  mentioned the  state's economy  as a                                                                    
variable.  She had  realized  over the  past  year that  the                                                                    
department had not been sharing  all of the information that                                                                    
would  have made  the economist's  projections as  useful as                                                                    
they  otherwise   could  have  been.  The   issue  had  been                                                                    
addressed internally,  and the department had  begun sharing                                                                    
more   in-depth,   detailed   information  to   inform   the                                                                    
projections.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon   recalled  a   slide  that   looked  at                                                                    
different   beneficiaries.  She   wondered  about   military                                                                    
personnel qualifying for Medicaid.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:05:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator von  Imhof looked at  slide 11 and  referenced 'IRIS                                                                    
Actual  Monthly Expenditures'  as listed  on the  slide. She                                                                    
wondered  if  diagnostic codes  were  also  provided to  the                                                                    
contractor.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien answered in the  affirmative, and confirmed that                                                                    
coding  information was  provided,  as  well as  adjustments                                                                    
that went into the  claims processing. The contractor worked                                                                    
closely with the person  responsible for Medicaid reporting.                                                                    
It  took about  six  weeks  for the  Medicaid  report to  be                                                                    
prepared  and finalized  for The  Centers  for Medicare  and                                                                    
Medicaid Services  (CMS). The  report was  approximately 600                                                                
pages  and  was  done  on   a  quarterly  basis.  The  staff                                                                    
responsible  for reporting  gathered information  from other                                                                    
staff and used fact-checking to enhance accuracy.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator von  Imhof wanted  to know  what the  consultant was                                                                    
being paid  for the service  provided. She wanted to  see an                                                                    
executive  summary with  graphs and  analysis. She  wondered                                                                    
what the department intended to  do to address the findings.                                                                    
She  wondered  when  the  Senate might  see  a  report  that                                                                    
indicated what the  department might do with  the results of                                                                    
the findings.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:08:43 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien informed that the  next set of slides from slide                                                                    
12 to  slide 23  would show  individual breakouts  of budget                                                                    
changes  from  FY  15  to  FY  19;  including  detail  about                                                                    
efficiencies, savings and challenges.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson   displayed  slide   12,  "Department                                                                    
Summary of Budget Changes from FY2015 to FY2019":                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Total Budget Increased $582,521.6                                                                                          
     Decrease UGF ($91,036.2)                                                                                                   
     Increase DGF $24,254.3                                                                                                     
     Increase Other $15,096.7                                                                                                   
     Increase Federal $634,206.8                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ? Department-wide Fund Source Change with a net zero                                                                       
     change from General Fund and General Fund Match -                                                                          
     $130,519.4                                                                                                                 
     ? FY2018 Supplemental Requests                                                                                             
           $18.0 million UGF Substance Use Disorders Grant                                                                      
          Funding                                                                                                               
           $100.0 million UGF Medicaid Services                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The  slide  showed  overall changes  across  the  department                                                                    
between FY 15 and FY 19.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman thought the slide was interesting.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien  confirmed that the  slide compared FY 15  to FY                                                                    
19.  She   pointed  out  that   there  was  detail   on  the                                                                    
supplemental  request  on  the  bottom  of  the  slide.  She                                                                    
reiterated that  the $100  million in  UGF for  Medicaid was                                                                    
anticipated  to   be  reduced   for  the  $7   million  CHIP                                                                    
reauthorization.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson clarified that the  top of each of the                                                                    
slides showed  the budget change  from FY  15 to FY  19, and                                                                    
the bullet points  below showed the change from FY  18 to FY                                                                    
19.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien turned to slide  13, "Alaska Pioneer Home Budget                                                                    
Changes from FY2015 to FY2019":                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Decrease UGF ($3,208.1)                                                                                                    
     Increase DGF $2,047.5                                                                                                      
     Increase Other $1,646.6                                                                                                    
     Increase Federal $531.3                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ? Increment for FY2019 $525.0 Federal Receipts for                                                                         
     Veteran's Administration rate increase effective                                                                           
     October 1, 2018                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien  stated  that  the  increment  of  $525,000  in                                                                    
federal receipt  authority was due  to an increased  rate of                                                                    
per diem in the Veterans Administration.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:11:44 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien  spoke to  slide  14,  "Division of  Behavioral                                                                    
Health Budget Changes from FY2015 to FY2019":                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Decrease UGF ($16,996.3)                                                                                                   
     Increase DGF $7,140.2                                                                                                      
     Decrease Other ($1,118.5)                                                                                                  
     Increase Federal $3,875.9                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ?Alaska Psychiatric Institute currently undergoing                                                                         
     renovations to meet the Joint Commission safety                                                                            
     requirements.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien thought  it was important to note  that costs in                                                                    
behavioral  health   had  been  attributed  to   the  Alaska                                                                    
Psychiatric  Institute (API),  which comprised  1.95 percent                                                                    
of  the department's  total budget.  The  institute had  the                                                                    
majority  of  staffing  within the  division.  In  order  to                                                                    
achieve  safety in  the institution,  there were  high staff                                                                    
levels and significant overtime.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson  added that when API  was first opened                                                                    
in  1963,  it  had  approximately  220  beds  and  had  then                                                                    
increased capacity to  225 by 1965. Nationally  there was an                                                                    
effort  to   deinstitutionalize  Americans   with  disabling                                                                    
conditions  and  provide  more appropriate  care.  When  the                                                                    
state  was  planning  to  build  a  new  facility  for  API,                                                                    
consultants' analysis had indicated  that a 124-bed facility                                                                    
was appropriate for the state's  population, however only 80                                                                    
beds were accommodated. She discussed  the pressures of API.                                                                    
She thought everyone could agree  that when a business model                                                                    
was changed  in such a  way, there would be  challenges. She                                                                    
wanted  to  underscore  that  renovation  work  was  putting                                                                    
additional pressure on the institute  and had necessitated a                                                                    
loss of  10 beds. The  second phase of the  renovation would                                                                    
occur in 2018.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien  reviewed  slide   15,  "Office  of  Children's                                                                    
Services Budget Changes from FY2015 to FY2019":                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Decrease UGF ($329.0)                                                                                                      
     Increase DGF $2,600.0                                                                                                      
     Increase Other $4,338.1                                                                                                    
     Increase Federal $15,077.7                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     ? Increment to Front Line Social Workers to fully fund                                                                     
     31 positions added to the FY2018 budget - $1,440.5                                                                         
     Total ($481.8 Federal and $958.7 UGF)                                                                                      
     ? Increment to Front Line Social Workers for increased                                                                     
     federal claiming - $6,500.0 Federal                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien informed that the  Office of Children's Services                                                                    
(OCS) budget comprised 5.04 percent  of the total department                                                                    
budget. The office  had a total of 565  positions, and since                                                                    
FY 16 had  increased staffing levels by 65  positions. In FY                                                                    
17,  OCS conveyed  that  child  protective services  reports                                                                    
were  the  highest  ever documented.  She  thought  adequate                                                                    
staffing  levels   had  resulted  in  more   children  being                                                                    
discharged  than   taken  in  as   the  office   dealt  with                                                                    
permanency issues.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bishop  thought  numbers  related  to  OCS  were                                                                    
disturbing.  He  thought  there was  a  correlation  with  a                                                                    
report  from the  Alaska  Criminal  Justice Commission  that                                                                    
discussed  crimes perpetrated  against  children. He  voiced                                                                    
his concern  and thought that  the Alaskan people  needed to                                                                    
do something to fix the problem.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:16:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien  discussed  slide  16,  "Health  Care  Services                                                                    
Budget Changes from FY2015 to FY2019":                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Decrease UGF ($1,723.0)                                                                                                    
     Increase DGF $216.9                                                                                                        
     Decrease Other ($1,570.4)                                                                                                  
     Increase Federal $583.3                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ? Increment in Residential Licensing for increased                                                                         
     federal claiming - $418.5 Federal                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien  detailed that the  Health Care  Services budget                                                                    
was .67  percent of  the department's  total budget;  and it                                                                    
had  127  positions.  Overall,   Health  Care  Services  had                                                                    
reduced its staffing  level by 7. The  request for increased                                                                    
federal claiming for  the FY 19 budget was a  result of some                                                                    
increased claiming potential in administrative costs.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien displayed  slide 17,  "Juvenile Justice  Budget                                                                    
Changes from FY2015 to FY2019":                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Decrease UGF ($455.6)                                                                                                      
     Increase Other $27.5                                                                                                       
     Increase Federal $3.8                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ? Funding for the Nome Youth Facility is in the base                                                                       
     budget.                                                                                                                    
     ? Work underway to implement recommendations of the                                                                        
     privatization feasibility study to transition 4 of the                                                                     
     14 secure beds to long term treatment beds.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien specified that the  Division of Juvenile Justice                                                                    
budget  comprised 1.8  percent of  the department's  budget.                                                                    
The division had 468 positions,  and since FY 15 had reduced                                                                    
staffing levels by 34 positions.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von  Imhof observed  a  pattern  in the  slides  of                                                                    
increasing DGF in each category.  She asked about the source                                                                    
of the funds and wondered if it was sustainable.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien relayed that DGF  was from different sources for                                                                    
each division.  The funds  could be in  the form  of program                                                                    
receipts  from  fees,  or  from  rebates  from  the  federal                                                                    
government.  There was  a great  deal of  variance depending                                                                    
upon  the collection  point of  the receipts.  She used  the                                                                    
example of  OCS, which had DGF  that was largely made  up of                                                                    
receipts  from  Department  of  Revenue  for  child  support                                                                    
payments and SSI benefits for  children in custody. The fund                                                                    
sources  typically had  been sustainable,  and OCS  had been                                                                    
able to collect  almost the full $5.6 million it  had in DGF                                                                    
over  the  course  of  the previous  two  years.  The  child                                                                    
support  receipts  were  not materializing  in  the  current                                                                    
year, and  in most  years, there  was some  fluctuation. She                                                                    
understood from DOR with regard  to OCS that there were less                                                                    
people  working  and  a   smaller  Permanent  Fund  Dividend                                                                    
inhibited the ability to collect the funds.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator von  Imhof heard that  there was a lot  of variance,                                                                    
and much depended upon federal  programs. She concluded that                                                                    
the department did not know if the DGF was sustainable.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien thought the department  had a good understanding                                                                    
of  expected  funds. The  details  were  particular to  each                                                                    
division  and could  involve extenuating  circumstances. She                                                                    
commented that  OCS was an extreme  example. Typically, when                                                                    
there  was excess  authority the  department decremented  it                                                                    
out  of the  budget. When  longer-term trends  occurred, the                                                                    
department examined  whether it  was necessary  to decrement                                                                    
the funds or do a fund-source change.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:21:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Bishop   thought  there   was  a   common  theme                                                                    
throughout  the  presentation  -  that was  related  to  the                                                                    
economy and the  ability to make a living  wage. He wondered                                                                    
how many  people were  working two jobs.  He thought  it was                                                                    
important to not stifling economic growth in the state.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche  thought  that   there  would  be  federal                                                                    
changes.  He  thought  that  the state  was  setting  up  an                                                                    
entitlement  and  a  level  of service  that  it  could  not                                                                    
provide.  He  wondered  if the  department  recognized  that                                                                    
there would be changes to  the Affordable Care Act (ACA). He                                                                    
did not  support an aggressive  income tax. He  wondered how                                                                    
the department  planned to react  if the  federal government                                                                    
changed its level of support for Medicaid.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  affirmed  that  the  department  had                                                                    
spent time  considering all the changes  contemplated to the                                                                    
ACA. The  department had been  in constant contact  with the                                                                    
congressional  delegation  to  provide  information  on  the                                                                    
impact  of  ACA  changes  on Alaska.  She  discussed  recent                                                                    
changes  and had  communicated to  the delegation  about the                                                                    
impact the  first seven years  of the changes to  the state.                                                                    
She  emphasized that  under all  the scenarios,  the changes                                                                    
for  Alaska  and  all  other  Medicaid-participating  states                                                                    
would  be significant.  She stated  that the  department was                                                                    
monitoring  the situation  very carefully  and thought  that                                                                    
there would not be a wholesale repeal of ACA..                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  thought  it seemed  like  there  was                                                                    
federal  funding available  for  other  programs. She  noted                                                                    
that military  spending had increased, which  was helpful to                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
10:26:33 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Micciche  reiterated that  he  did  not support  an                                                                    
income tax. He mentioned the  federal and state deficits. He                                                                    
thought  the focus  should  be on  the  economy and  getting                                                                    
people to their full human  potential so that a much smaller                                                                    
proportion of people would need services.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:28:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  von  Imhof  wondered  how  the  commissioner  would                                                                    
restructure the department and  prioritize programs if there                                                                    
was a significant change in  federal funding. She asked what                                                                    
the commissioner and staff were  doing to meet the challenge                                                                    
of affordability.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson emphasized  that Alaska  had to  meet                                                                    
the requirements of federal law.  As the changes to ACA were                                                                    
being  contemplated  the department  had  done  its best  to                                                                    
provide  information  on  potential  impacts,  such  as  the                                                                    
number of Alaskans with disabling  conditions and the number                                                                    
of  children that  could  potentially  lose healthcare.  She                                                                    
continued  that the  same  could  be said  for  many of  the                                                                    
state's  public  assistance  programs, most  of  which  were                                                                    
federal  programs  implemented  by  the  state.  There  were                                                                    
exceptions under  public assistance  for which there  was no                                                                    
federal requirement. She cited  the Senior Benefits Program,                                                                    
which was fully  state-funded and would sunset  in 2018. She                                                                    
mentioned the  Alaska Heating Assistance Program,  which had                                                                    
been eliminated in FY 16.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson discussed  other  programs in  public                                                                    
assistance  such as  the  Supplemental Nutrition  Assistance                                                                    
Program   (SNAP),  and   the  Alaska   Temporary  Assistance                                                                    
Program, federal  heating assistance, the  Childcare Program                                                                    
Office, and the Women,  Infants, and Children (WIC) program.                                                                    
She continued that one of  the challenges in the DHSS budget                                                                    
was  that the  vast  majority of  the  budget was  federally                                                                    
mandated formula-based or entitlement programs.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:32:10 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien  referenced  slide   18,  "Division  of  Public                                                                    
Assistance Budget Changes from FY2015 to FY2019":                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Decrease UGF ($35,700.5)                                                                                                   
     Increase DGF $650.0                                                                                                        
     Increase Other $154.7                                                                                                      
     Increase Federal $3,147.0                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ? Funding for the Senior Benefits Program was added                                                                        
     into the FY2019 budget - $19,986.1 UGF                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien  informed  that  the   budget  for  the  Public                                                                    
Assistance Program made up 9.19  percent of the department's                                                                    
budget. The program  had 556 positions and had  reduced by 9                                                                    
positions since FY  19. The funding for  the Senior Benefits                                                                    
Program was  added into  the FY 19  budget, and  the program                                                                    
was due to sunset in 2018.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien  moved to slide  19, "Division of  Public Health                                                                    
Budget Changes from FY2015 to FY2019":                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Decrease UGF ($16,027.9)                                                                                                   
     Increase DGF $12,495.1                                                                                                     
     Increase Other $659.2                                                                                                      
     Increase Federal $646.4                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ? Decrement to the Tobacco Use Education and Cessation                                                                     
     Funding as part of the multi-year plan for                                                                                 
     sustainability. - $375.0                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien  relayed that  the  Division  of Public  Health                                                                    
budget  comprised 3.6  percent of  the department's  overall                                                                    
budget.  The  division had  426  positions  and had  reduced                                                                    
staffing by 65 positions overall.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien looked  at slide  20, "Division  of Senior  and                                                                    
Disabilities   Services  Budget   Changes  from   FY2015  to                                                                    
FY2019":                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Decrease UGF ($5,274.5)                                                                                                    
     Increase DGF $0                                                                                                            
     Increase Other $516.8                                                                                                      
     Increase Federal $3,718.0                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     ? Reorganizational effort to consolidate grant                                                                             
     programs into a single component of the budget for                                                                         
    administrative efficiencies in managing the grants.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The  Division of  Senior and  Disability Services  comprised                                                                    
1.9  percent of  the department's  budget. The  division had                                                                    
175  staff total  and  had increased  staffing  levels by  2                                                                    
positions. In  the current year's  budget, the  division had                                                                    
reorganized to  reduce administrative costs  by reorganizing                                                                    
several  grants  components  into a  single  component.  The                                                                    
change allowed  for a more  fluid process of  issuing grants                                                                    
and increase efficiency.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson added  that  in the  budget books  it                                                                    
appeared  that  there  were  166  employees  in  Senior  and                                                                    
Disability Services  in the category of  administration. She                                                                    
clarified  that   the  positions   were  not   actually  for                                                                    
administrative  support functions.  Due to  the size  of the                                                                    
division,  many  of the  positions  were  consolidated to  a                                                                    
single budget  component; which included  protective service                                                                    
specialists,  health program  managers, medical  assistants,                                                                    
administrators,  and nurses.  Of  the 166  positions in  the                                                                    
administration  category,   10  were   truly  administrative                                                                    
support staff (including the director).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:35:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   O'Brien  discussed   slide  21,   "Department  Support                                                                    
Services Budget Changes from FY2015 to FY2019":                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Decrease UGF ($9,036.1)                                                                                                    
     Increase DGF $0                                                                                                            
     Increase Other $5,486.5                                                                                                    
     Decrease Federal ($10,794.2)                                                                                               
     ? Decrement federal authority in the Performance Bonus                                                                     
     component due to funding no longer available. -                                                                            
     $5,300.0 Federal                                                                                                           
     ? Transfer 16 positions to the Office of Information                                                                       
     Technology in the Department of Administration.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien noted that the  Support Services budget included                                                                    
IT,  facilities staffing,  and capital  budgets. She  stated                                                                    
that the GF  spending in the had been reduced  by $9 million                                                                    
in  the previous  five  years.  Department Support  Services                                                                    
made  up 1.3  percent  of the  overall departmental  budget.                                                                    
There  were  222  staff,  which   had  been  reduced  by  48                                                                    
positions over the previous several years.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien  displayed slide  22, "Medicaid  Services Budget                                                                    
Changes from FY2015 to FY2019":                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Decrease UGF ($1,867.0)                                                                                                    
     Decrease DGF ($895.2)                                                                                                      
     Increase Other $4,596.2                                                                                                    
     Increase Federal $617,722.3                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     ? FY2018 Supplemental Request                                                                                              
      $100,000.0 UGF for increased non Medicaid Expansion                                                                       
     enrollment                                                                                                                 
      $525,000.0 Federal to reflect increases for Indian                                                                        
     Health Services and Medicaid Expansion growth                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  O'Brien anticipated  that spending  would level  off as                                                                    
Medicaid  enrollment  showed  a  smaller  increase.  Current                                                                    
waiver  services   were  an  alternative   to  institutional                                                                    
services,  which were  mandatory.  In FY  17 the  department                                                                    
spent  $242 million  on waiver  services, which  made up  12                                                                    
percent of the overall Medicaid budget.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson   stated  that  the   department  was                                                                    
frequently asked  about the  category of  Medicaid mandatory                                                                    
versus optional  services. She  clarified that  Medicaid was                                                                    
federally authorized and  state administered. State Medicaid                                                                    
programs  had  the  option  to  provide  some  services  for                                                                    
adults.  There  were  no  optional  services  for  children,                                                                    
because children  must receive  all optional  services under                                                                    
the  Early  Periodic   Screening  Diagnostic  and  Treatment                                                                    
Program. The  department had 24 optional  services available                                                                    
for  Alaskans,  provided  because  they were  a  more  cost-                                                                    
effective way to deliver another  kind of service that might                                                                    
be   considered  mandatory.   Podiatry  services   were  not                                                                    
covered,  but the  state was  required to  pay the  Medicare                                                                    
cost-share for  the service for individuals  dually enrolled                                                                    
in Medicaid and  Medicare. She informed that one  of the top                                                                    
four optional services the state  paid for were prescription                                                                    
drugs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  asked how many opioids  were included in                                                                    
pharmaceutical benefits.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson offered to  provide the information at                                                                    
a later time.  She stated that the department  had looked at                                                                    
the  number  of  opioids being  prescribed  when  associated                                                                    
legislation  was introduced.  Providers  had new  parameters                                                                    
imposed on the prescription of opioids.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:40:52 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon   was  aware   of  the   new  parameters                                                                    
mentioned  by  the  commissioner.  She asked  for  input  on                                                                    
pharmacy prescriptions filled by  Medicaid - she wondered if                                                                    
there  was  another way  to  help  intervene in  the  opioid                                                                    
crisis  in  the state.  She  wondered  about individuals  on                                                                    
Medicaid that  were suffering  from addiction  and receiving                                                                    
opioids paid for by Medicaid.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  stated  that   one  of  the  biggest                                                                    
increases in  spending on prescription drugs  was for things                                                                    
such   as  Hepatitis-C   medication.   She  confirmed   that                                                                    
previously  the cost  for treating  Hepatitis-C  was in  the                                                                    
$60,000  to $80,000  range;  there  was a  new  drug on  the                                                                    
market that  would cost in  the $20,000 range.  As expensive                                                                    
prescriptions  became  available  as  generic  drugs,  there                                                                    
would be lowered costs.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson  listed the other optional  service of                                                                    
behavioral   health,  which   included  mental   health  and                                                                    
substance  abuse treatment  services. Personal  care service                                                                    
was  also  an  optional   treatment.  Providing  care  in  a                                                                    
patient's home was  much less costly than  providing care as                                                                    
a mandatory service in a skilled nursing facility.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche asked if there  was a reason why the Alaska                                                                    
Mental  Health Trust  Authority (AMHTA)  was not  picking up                                                                    
the $18 million increment in  UGF budget for substance abuse                                                                    
treatment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien  relayed that the  department had  not discussed                                                                    
the  matter with  AMHTA. The  trust prepared  its budget  in                                                                    
advance  that  of  the  department,   and  the  process  was                                                                    
established. Conversations  with the trust had  not happened                                                                    
at  the  time  the  supplemental budget  request  was  being                                                                    
prepared.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  thought Senator Micciche was  the chair of                                                                    
the Senate Finance Subcommittee for DHSS.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon pointed  out  that the  state could  not                                                                    
tell  AMHTA how  to spend  its  money. Rather,  there was  a                                                                    
specific list of options.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:44:53 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien  turned to slide 23,  "Department Capital Budget                                                                    
Requests":                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     ? Office of Children's Services Safety and Support                                                                         
     Enhancements: $1,239.4 Total ($350.8 Federal/$888.6                                                                        
     UGF)                                                                                                                       
     ? Mental Health Essential Program Equipment: $500.0                                                                        
     Total ($250.0 MHTAAR/$250.0 AHFC Dividends)                                                                                
     ? Mental Health Home Modification and Upgrades to                                                                          
     Maintain   Housing:   $1,050.0   Total   ($750.0   AHFC                                                                    
     Dividends/$300.0 MHTAAR)                                                                                                   
     The Governor's "Alaska Economic Recovery Plan"                                                                             
     ? Emergency Medical Services Match for Code Blue                                                                           
     Project: $1,000.0 UGF                                                                                                      
     ? Pioneer Home Renovations and Repairs: $2,000.0 UGF                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. O'Brien  relayed that most  of the  department's capital                                                                    
budget requests  were for  OCS. The funds  would be  used to                                                                    
increase safety  in some  field offices  where safety  was a                                                                    
significant  issue.  The  office  had seen  an  increase  in                                                                    
situations where  staff had  been threatened.  She discussed                                                                    
the  request  for program  equipment.  She  stated that  the                                                                    
request  was  common  to  most   years.  She  discussed  the                                                                    
modifications  and  upgrades  to help  individuals  maintain                                                                    
housing.  She   discussed  the  Code  Blue   Project,  which                                                                    
supported   community  purchases,   and  essential   medical                                                                    
services. She specified that  the 'Pioneer Home Renovations'                                                                    
listed on the slide were  for the Anchorage Pioneer Home and                                                                    
the  Ketchikan Pioneer  Home  and  would provide  additional                                                                    
capacity  for  individuals   with  Alzheimer's  disease  and                                                                    
related dementia.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:47:31 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson spoke to  slide 24, "Questions for the                                                                    
Department":                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     ? Major Cost Drivers                                                                                                       
     ? Cost to Advertise various social programs (State or                                                                      
     Federal Funds)                                                                                                             
     ? How does Alaska's social service programs compare to                                                                     
     other states?                                                                                                              
     ? Money spent per recipient, per capita on social                                                                          
     service programs.                                                                                                          
      Breakout by community                                                                                                     
     ? Number of programs across the department that seem                                                                       
     like there is duplication in programs.                                                                                     
     ? How many programs can one person qualify for at any                                                                      
     given time?                                                                                                                
     ? CHIP Program update.                                                                                                     
     ? Update on Efficiency/Cost reduction plans presented                                                                      
     to legislators in 2016 session.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  reiterated  that  the  biggest  cost                                                                    
drivers  in the  department's budget  were formula  programs                                                                    
the  state was  required to  comply with  such as  Medicaid,                                                                    
OCS, and  the Division  of Public Assistance.  She addressed                                                                    
the  question  about the  cost  of  advertising for  various                                                                    
social  programs and  if certain  ads had  led to  increased                                                                    
enrollment.  She  informed  that  the  advertising  for  the                                                                    
department  were largely  paid for  with federal  funds, and                                                                    
often  were  a  requirement   of  the  department's  federal                                                                    
partners.  She   used  examples  of  programs   the  federal                                                                    
government paid  for advertising including WIC  and the Play                                                                    
every Day Program.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:49:30 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:50:28 AM                                                                                                                   
RECONVENED                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson continued  to speak  to slide  24 and                                                                    
using  state  funding  for advertising.  She  discussed  the                                                                    
legalization of marijuana, and  the concerns about informing                                                                    
youth  about the  effect of  the drug  on young  brains. The                                                                    
department  did some  advertisements  that  made sure  young                                                                    
people would  understand the effects marijuana  had on young                                                                    
brains and provided notice to the public about legalities.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Davidson   addressed  how   Alaska's   social                                                                    
services programs  compared to  other states. She  noted the                                                                    
difficulty in  comparing other  states, which  provided many                                                                    
services  through  counties.  She stated  that  the  state's                                                                    
federal  programs abided  by federal  guidelines. Some  were                                                                    
adjusted for  the higher  cost of living  in the  state. She                                                                    
mentioned the  Heating Assistance Program, which  was unique                                                                    
to Alaska and had since been discontinued.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson addressed  the fourth  bullet on  the                                                                    
slide  and  discussed how  much  money  was being  spent  on                                                                    
social service  programs per capita.  She was unsure  of the                                                                    
question that had been asked of the department.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:53:04 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon referenced  an  earlier conversation  in                                                                    
which  she asked  for data  divided by  program. She  stated                                                                    
that  the  information  would help  to  manage  where  state                                                                    
assets  were  being  deployed.  She  asked  to  see  a  list                                                                    
quantifying  funds spent  on DHSS  services  broken down  by                                                                    
Senate   district  or   region.  She   wondered  about   the                                                                    
possibility of  providing a family  a statement  of benefits                                                                    
that enumerated the cost of benefits being received.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Davidson  referenced   a  one-page   document                                                                    
entitled  "Public  Assistance   Programs,"  (copy  on  file)                                                                    
detailing how a person may qualify for different programs.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  wanted to know  where assets  were being                                                                    
deployed.   She   recognized   that  there   were   regional                                                                    
differences in  unemployment and poverty. She  thought there                                                                    
were families  that might necessitate care  coordination due                                                                    
to  the  number  of  services received.  She  discussed  the                                                                    
poverty level  and thought the  state could not  continue to                                                                    
provide  the  same level  of  services.  She referenced  the                                                                    
Dillingham  area,  and  discussed seasonal  employment.  She                                                                    
wanted to quantify the level of services.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson appreciated the clarification.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:57:45 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  reminded that  the committee  meetings for                                                                    
the following  two days would address  Medicaid cost drivers                                                                    
and  reform  updates.  He requested  that  members  put  any                                                                    
additional comments in writing  to provide the department by                                                                    
the end of the business day.  He asked if the members wanted                                                                    
to make any final comments.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Micciche remarked that  DHSS played a very important                                                                    
role.  He discussed  the total  funding  for the  department                                                                    
divided   by  the   number  of   recipients.  He   discussed                                                                    
employment rates  in the state  and wondered if it  was time                                                                    
for  a work  or training  requirement to  help people  reach                                                                    
their  potential. He  thought the  state  had increased  the                                                                    
availability of  benefits to the  degree that it  was easier                                                                    
for people to  not pursue dreams. He  thought the department                                                                    
had to be an active partner in reducing costs.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:00:59 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson  shared the committee's  concern about                                                                    
growth  in DHSS  programs.  She stated  that the  department                                                                    
appreciated the  value of services it  provided to Alaskans.                                                                    
The department viewed  its services as a way  to help people                                                                    
back on  their feet. She  continued that the  department was                                                                    
required  by  federal   law  to  have  a   number  of  work,                                                                    
employment, and training  opportunities available; and could                                                                    
provide some  examples to the committee.  She discussed ways                                                                    
in which  DHSS served individuals that  needed assistance to                                                                    
become self-sufficient.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  stated that the  committee had  been doing                                                                    
things a little differently the  past two years and would be                                                                    
considering the  four major  cost drivers  of the  state. He                                                                    
recalled that  the Department  of Transportation  and Public                                                                    
Facilities  had   presented  to   the  committee;   and  the                                                                    
University  and  the  Department   of  Education  and  Early                                                                    
Development had  yet to present.  He stated that  the Senate                                                                    
Finance  Subcommittee  for  DHSS   was  chaired  by  Senator                                                                    
Micciche  and  included  members  Senator  Coghill,  Senator                                                                    
Giessel, Senator Kelly, and Senator  Olson. There would be a                                                                    
review  of  subcommittee  recommendations  before  the  full                                                                    
committee. He  reiterated that the following  two days would                                                                    
include presentations on Medicaid cost drivers and reform                                                                       
updates.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SB 144 was HEARD and HELD in committee for further                                                                              
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
013018 SFC DHSS FY19 Budget Overview .pdf SFIN 1/30/2018 9:00:00 AM
SB 144
013018 DHSS Chart of Different Types of Services.pdf SFIN 1/30/2018 9:00:00 AM
SB 144